Preying on drunk women in social settings = rape?

I can't speak for women for obvious reasons, and for all men for that matter, just for myself. But I've done things while very drunk that I would have thought twice about if sober. However, I can't recall (or rather, have other people recall for me) doing something that I would definitely never do when sober. Everything I've done drunk is within the realm of possibilities of things I would do sober, just getting rid of some inhibitions.

This topic hits close to home specially now that I live in the UK. Almost everyone I know that is Scottish / from the UK itself here get laid ONLY by being drunk and picking up drunk chicks. I know a few friends from back in high school who are 'Pick-Up Artists' (it's such a lame term, and some are more succesful than others, but having seen one in action, there is definitely something about the 'formula' that he uses that works) that can pick up chicks sober easily, but here, people (guys) pretty much assume that the woman has to be drunk to fuck them. It's borderline pathetic to be honest, and it depresses me to no end because there is nothing more unattractive than seeing a chick who can barely stand. One of my friends here is the most hypocritical guy I know, cool guy to hang out with but he talks so much shit. The ONLY times he's gotten laid was when he was drunk and he picked up some ridiculously drunk girls. But when he wants to get on the good side of our 'international' female friends (you know, women that actually respect themselves), he always talks about how the most unattractive thing is seeing a woman that is so fucked up she can barely speak.

It's funny and depressing at the same time.

It really depends on how drunk she is. There's a point when you're drinking where you do lose the ability to rationally consent to pretty much anything. That's assuming you even realize what is going on. And it takes less alcohol to get a woman to that point.

Personally if I swung that way I'd steer clear of going after overly drunk chicks if only for the legal ramifications - if she regrets it enough and is unethical enough she can cry rape and basically fuck your life.

For some awful reason, rape is legally a vague term where I'm from. There must be several reasons for all of this, but I think it is partly due to the expanding definitions proposed by concerned political individuals that its criminal status is rapidly dimishing in my country. When such a serious crime is being treated with judicial doubt, creating more sexual situations where women can press charges will only weaken the effect of a rape allegation, no matter how good the intent. It is important to protect the tangibility of the criminal act, instead of investigating consent in modern courting.

lol I think they've all been scared off by this, their favorite topic

I should prey on drunk women more often.

yes exactly

i guess the fact that i find intoxicated women utterly unattractive doesn't help at all

I think Kenny said it best. I agree with him fully.

/woman's opinion on topic

does that include the "she dressed the part/acted the part" as well as what could be regarded as regret. I get fired up when I read about people claiming a woman deserved what she got because she dressed the part of a loose woman or acted like a tramp. That kind of talk ends up making the rapist more the victim and that...well it really grinds my gears.

Feminists do have a point with wanting to speak out against that kind of talk because [the talk] promotes a negative environment.

I don't think Feminists should waste time protesting guys like Tucker Max and shouting from the rooftops that any pickups at bars/clubs/etc can fall into the rape category. Women do have to take some responsibility for their actions: go to a club and drink too much and you might do something you'll regret. Kind of comes with the territory.

also most of his 'anecdotes' are completely made up